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You are probably already aware that Justin Bieber, Hailey Baldwin, Chris Pratt, Katherine Schwarzenegger, Selena Gomez, various Kardashians and Jenners, and many other celebrities are frequent attendees of a church called Hillsong.

Hillsong is a contemporary Christian evangelical church that was founded in 1983 in Sydney, Australia. Its presence in the United States has grown considerably in the past few years primarily because its hipster Pastor, Carl Lentz, worked hard to attract celebrity fans.

Here is Pastor Carl Lentz with Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne.

And here he is with Oprah.

We’ve talked to you before about how Justin Bieber became so close to Carl Lentz, that he considered him a “second father.”

Lentz even got in the middle of the prenup battle between Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin (see Legal Tug Of War for details).

The two men spent a lot of time together so that Lentz could privately “counsel” Bieber.

Justin Bieber even lived with Pastor Carl Lentz and his wife Laura for a while.

Well, Carl Lentz is now facing a serious scandal.

He was just fired by Hillsong!

Here is the statement from the Church:

Announcement from Hillsong Church Global Senior Pastor Brian Houston.

Re: Hillsong East Coast (USA)
Date: 11/04/2020

Today Hillsong Church East Coast advised our congregation that we have terminated the employment of Pastor Carl Lentz. This action was not taken lightly and was done in the best interests of everyone, including Pastor Carl.

We thank Pastors Carl and Laura for the way they have served faithfully and sacrificially since the start of Hillsong NYC and for contributing so significantly to the countless lives that have been transformed for Jesus Christ through this ministry. They have a heart for people and we are confident that after a time of rest and restoration, God will use Carl in another way outside of Hillsong church. In terminating his tenure, we in no way want to diminish the good work he did here.

This action has been taken following ongoing discussions in relation to leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of moral failures.

It would not be appropriate for us to go into detail about the events that led to this decision. Our focus at this time is to honor God and pastorally care for our East Coast church community as well as the Lentz family.

While I have no doubt that this is the right course of action, I must mention Bobbie’s and my personal sadness, as we have known Laura her entire life and Carl for well over 20 years.

Hillsong East Coast services and all of our ministries will proceed as usual, and we will continue to be a place of hope, love and faith through the powerful and transforming message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is a message our nation and the world need to hear more than ever during a time of such instability and uncertainty.

I appreciate the great team of people who serve here, and as we embark on the process of selecting new leadership, we are praying that God would bring about an exciting new season for our church and this region.

Hillsong Church will not be making further public comments on this matter.

Of course they won’t be saying anything more! This is a major embarrassment for them.

However, those “breaches of trust” and “moral failures” must have been very serious for the church to have fired their most famous and popular leader.

Why do you think Lentz was fired? Be specific.

Similar: Legal Tug Of War

Why Lentz was fired:

[Optional] Why do you think Justin Bieber latched on to Carl Lentz in the first place?

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Comments

  1. Carigirl says

    Cheating on his wife for sure…possibly something to do with money. Oh religion…growing up, I went to this small town church. I’ll never forget this “perfect” guy that was the pastors son in law (married to the pastors daughter). Well, I turned 18 and went out dancing one night. I saw him there with tons of girls all over him. He saw me and put a finger to his lips and gave me a nervous and mean look all at once. After that day…I gave up on Christianity.

  3. GretaGuesses says

    Wasn’t the founder of the Hillsong Cult allegedly a pedo? My guess is that this is something sexual, but not just an affair…something with young people or something with a male. I always thought his interest in Bieber was odd.

  5. Musicsunlight says

    Not buying the cheating on wife story. Hillsong is a bit of a cess pit. The founder was a pardophile so the moral standards are zero in reality as the fish rots from the head. Lentz probably stealing and did something sordid that there is a chance of it coming out in the media. That’s why they prob broke ties.

  8. zappy2050 says

    I hate to go here – I really really really do – but he might have been involved sexually with Beiber. The pastor and Beiber are both married and Beiber see him as a father figure – so I hate to go here. But whatever the pastor did – is bad.

    I don’t think it is money related.

  9. Parade says

    They’re evangelicals, it’s not cheating (evangelicals forgive this) it has something to do with money.

  10. calumsmom says

    He was unfaithful to his wife.
    Very sad that when many people think of evangelical Christians, the ones that most readily come to mind are those who’ve majorly messed up. There are tens of thousands of Christians who have never cheated on their spouses, never tried to solicit a prostitute, never tried to embezzle money from the church— I could go on. It’s so unfortunate that Christians get a bad rap because of a few in the public eye.

  11. yashenny says

    They say infidelity but I’m guessing it was sexual assault and/or the girl was a minor since most churches don’t fire someone for just cheating on their spouse with another consenting adult; they would view it as a test of faith.

  12. whiskers says

    I would guess the reason this “pastor” was let go was due to sexual impropriety or sexual harassment.

    If “pastor” Lentz was vocally, publicly and ardently anti – LGBTQ , then I’d change my response to indicate that the reason for his termination was because he had a secret affair with another man.

  13. ItsBouquet says

    I think he fiddled with a few minors and some are speaking out.

    Justin was his boyfriend. The mentor thing is nonsense code word for an inappropriate relationship.

  17. zappy2050 says

    Sounds like the pastor slept with multiple people outside his marriage – not just one person.

    It also sounds like he probably slept with people (multiple) inside the church.

    Not sure if any of these people are underage – but it sounds like whatever he did was a serious breach of trust.

    Justin Beiber looks like he did not have much parental guidance and got heavily involved in drugs – that is why he latched on to the pastor – searching for peace, guidance, help – a pseudo parent.

  18. irisvoneverec says

    Why Lentz was fired: Grooming young kids by telling them they’ll get a chance to meet bieber or any other Celebrity that is linked to the church, then abuse.

  19. antisocialwonder says

    He went Jerry Falwell Jr. or he got caught with porn or they finally realized he was a fame-W or he cheated on his wife or he didn’t vote for the that new Christian “savior” Trump. 🙄 Probably all of the above and other nasty business.

  21. mayer2816 says

    Drugs, child pornography, cheating his wife, money laundering. Who knows.. look at his face. He’s hiding a lot

  22. IamnotMe says

    For sure he had to have strayed from his marriage; just look at that arrogance. I also think he started loving the celebrity life a li̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ lot too much. It’s a guess but addiction and the use of the church’s money to obtain his drug/s of choice sounds about right.

  23. TeaDrinker says

    IMO it had to be something that affected a “rich” member. Cheating with the rich member’s spouse, stealing money from rich members, OR they found he’s gay (sad to say even in 2020 those kind of “hip” churches are still homophobic). It has to be something that affects their own reputation. Those kind of churches pick and choose which sins are heavy enough to support turning their back on someone that high up in the church.

  26. amagod121 says

    I think that Hillsong would quietly let Pastor Carl go if he had been bilking it or its members of $$$.

    I think that Hillsing would quietly repremand Pastor Carl if he had been caught doing drugs.

    So I am going for the oldest vice in the universe, that Pastor Carl was caught having hootchie kootchie with a member or members of his congregation. Like maybe a male member? Or a male’s member?

    Optnl: Justin wanted & needed a stable father figure. Not sure that’s what he got.

  28. VegetableLasagna says

    Why Lentz was fired: cheating on his wife, but I think there’s more to it than that. Either cheated on her with a man or he got caught in an abuse scandal.

    [Optional] Why do you think Justin Bieber latched on to Carl Lentz in the first place? I think there is abuse involved and sadly JB has had a lot of mental/emotional issues in recent years and is a lost soul. He latched onto Lentz because he had no trustworthy stable adults in his life.

  31. Alllie says

    pastor Lentz seems a little too full of himself and probably got involved partying, drinking, and playing with all the celebrity kool kids. All i hear is “I’m sorry I fell to temptation, im just a man, blah blah blah” in the future. Hopefully no immaculate conceptions took place! 🙂

  32. fimelo says

    It’s the TIMING of this release that is interesting – trying to bury it under the election result/vote count!

    He will have done the usual combination of sex and drugs.

  35. Jssgarden says

    Idk why he was fire but I think Christians are just people that face a lot of struggles on the journey. Churches are not supposed to be perfect and of course when they lose the holy spirit they no longer have a purpose. Idk what happened with Hillsong or the pastor in particular, but I hope they learned from this and asked God for forgiveness. We still struggle in our journey sometimes and I believe Christians are even more so than the others.

  40. VickyLou says

    Interesting order here “personal sadness, as we have known Laura her entire life and Carl for well over 20 years” .
    ie. Care for her first.
    Did he have an affair? With a celebrity follower?

  41. Catiesone says

    He was fired because of infidelity…he was cheating on his wife…let see adultery is against the 10 Commandments…great relationship counseller he turned out to be.

  42. seattlemonkey says

    Something’s off about Carl Lentz’s timely and tidy little claim of infidelity.
    I don’t doubt his story, but I think there was MUCH more that his handlers (and/or those of Hillsong) are covering up. I suspect infidelity is the tip of the iceberg – it’s the distraction story we’re all supposed to be absorbed by. “Nothing to see here, folks!” (stuffs a few hundred mil into a duffel bag under dark of night)

  46. MommyPalooza says

    I wouldn’t consider him their most popular. Brian Houston is.

    I’m going to guess the moral failures are of a sexual nature and have likely been documented (and thus are proveable).

  47. The Big D says

    Sounds like it may be similar to the Falwell debacle with the pool boy and possibly missing funds. Definitely inappropriate sexual relationships.

  52. rc_mags says

    I don’t know specifically why Lentz was fired, but he always seemed a bit too cozy with the celebs for his own good. I’m sure he can be a righteous person and probably charismatic, which can be very appealing, especially to a young man who has lost his moral compass. I’m sure Lentz was a good influence on Justin Bieber, but I can’t imagine being a Christian in that world, I mean really, the Kardashians?

  54. DreamyVelvet says

    Sex and money. I’m going to say swingers or threesomes and using the impressionable church members for hookups like the Falwells did. He’s surrounded by the very rich and probably helped himself to church funds to finance his wife’s ridiculous boob job that no dress can contain. They’re gross.

  55. luddite2 says

    Most likely some sort of sexual harassment that the church is trying to avoid, or else the rainmaker would have been retained. Cheating on his wife, stealing from church, etc are forgivable to keep the business going. Not the case with harassment.
    Bieber likely liked the sense of being sold the idea of a purpose through religion while at same time getting his ego stroked.

  56. wfreshie says

    other way around..beiber was ripe for the picking pastor lentz “groomed” him took advantage of him

  57. sabrina325 says

    It most likely has to do with money. Either Pastor Carl was stealing from the church or he was planning to start his own church and take the high net worth followers with him.

  58. charlene2345 says

    Lentz committed adultery, or abused his power over another person in one form or another. Another Christian proving themselves to be a hypocrite!

    People often latch onto religion to fill some kind of void in their life. In Bieber’s case, he gave up drugs and alcohol and found religion to fill the void. It’s not uncommon. I used to volunteer with a literacy group in a jail- it’s amazing how many give up drugs and other vices for religion.

  60. sunshine702 says

    I saw that!Sounds like a sex scandal to me. A rape is my guess.

    Beiber needed guidance. Lentz did that.