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Legal Tug Of War

September 19, 2018 Blind Gossip

SOLVED!

[Blind Gossip] This young male celebrity is in the middle of a tug-of-war over a very expensive piece of paper!

On the one side is his future family. His fiancee’s father has been in his ear telling him that his own marriage has been successful because he and his wife did not do a prenup, even though he was the rich and famous one in the relationship when they married.

His argument is that that it was their equal financial footing in the relationship and their belief in their union as a holy commitment that kept their marriage going even when things weren’t perfect.

On the other side is another older male role model. Interestingly, he is telling our Young Celebrity that he should get the prenup!

You would think he would be the one telling him to make a full commitment on every level, but he’s not. He’s telling [Young Celebrity] that it’s a test of his fiancee’s faith in their commitment. If she is really committed, she wouldn’t be focused on the money.

It’s fascinating that the two men he respects most are making completely different faith-based arguments!

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Young Male Celebrity:

His Fiancee:

[Optional] What do you think he should/will do?

SOLVED!

Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber

His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin Bieber

Approximately six months ago, your friends at Blind Gossip told you that there was a tug of war going on over whether or not Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin would have a prenuptial agreement.

Justin Bieber is worth over $250 million.

Hayley Baldwin Bieber is worth approximately $3 million.

Bieber’s mentor, Pastor Carl Lentz of Hillsong Church, pushed for a prenup.

Baldwin and her family pushed against it.

Baldwin won.

There’s no prenup.

And now that’s a problem.

From Elle:

Justin Bieber Is Reportedly ‘Scared’ About Not Having a Prenup Despite His and Hailey Baldwin’s Commitment to Marriage

Justin Bieber has realized that as committed to Hailey Baldwin as he is (and she him), maybe getting married in a courthouse without signing a prenup wasn’t the best idea. Us Weekly reports that Baldwin remains supportive of Bieber as he continues to get treatment for his depression. “Hailey is not going to leave Justin and he won’t leave her either,” a source said of the two. “She’s been so supportive of him throughout this process.”

That said, Bieber has talked to Baldwin about his own fear of not having any legal protection financially if the marriage doesn’t work out. (Bieber is reported to be worth $265 million while Baldwin is worth $3 million.) He “brought up that he’s scared he doesn’t have a prenup,” the source said. “[They have] some issues, but are committed to working through them.” Bieber and Baldwin, of course, can still work their lawyers and sign a post-nuptial agreement that would work the same way as a prenup would.

Right after the couple’s courthouse wedding, The Sun suggested that Bieber’s team was working on one. “They didn’t tell anyone on their teams what was going on and his people have been frantically trying to get his business affairs and finances in order,” a source told the outlet.

Bieber and Baldwin were candid in their Vogue interview about how “hard” marriage had been and how they are working out their issues in couple’s therapy. One struggle point is how to communicate without clashing since they have very different personalities (Bieber is very expressive emotionally while Baldwin is more reserved). One of the exercises Vogue detailed was practicing arguing without being unkind. That’s where Bieber made it clear they were determined to stay together.

“Fighting is good,” Bieber told Vogue. “Doesn’t the Bible talk about righteous anger? We don’t want to lose each other. We don’t want to say the wrong thing, and so we’ve been struggling with not expressing our emotions, which has been driving me absolutely crazy because I just need to express myself, and it’s been really difficult to get her to say what she feels.”

“You’ll get it out of me the next morning,” Baldwin responded.

The couple is married but have postponed the formal wedding celebration several times.

Why?

Well, they are fighting constantly, he is in therapy for depression, they are both in marriage therapy at the church, and there is no prenup.

Hard to plan a wedding when everyone is so stressed out!

Congratulations to Miami PoLo41 for being first with the correct response!

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  1. Kricket1 says

    September 20, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin – Please get a pre-nup ……Everyone gets insurance but few people ever have to use it – Its just a sensible thing to do when there is a lot at stake …..it protects both of you in case things go sideways sometime in the future –
    Its not about either side or parents its about securing the lifetime commitment you plan to undertake and making sure there will be no problems that pop up in the future to ruin both lives -Make it fair for both people

  2. girlwithcommonsense says

    September 20, 2018 at 11:15 am

    yes the guy is bieber and the *gold digging* fiance is hailey baldwin but i dont think the older male figure encouraging him to get the prenup is carl or usher i think its his manager scooter braun

  3. yashenny says

    September 20, 2018 at 11:00 am

    The Beibs.

  4. Realistic says

    September 20, 2018 at 9:24 am

    Justin Bieber
    Hailey Baldwin

  5. Sandy24 says

    September 20, 2018 at 9:14 am

    Bieber and Hailey Baldwin. OF COURSE her dad is selling that angle, he’s going to try to put her in the best possible position in case the marriage doesn’t work out! Duh! Get the prenup B, be generous but don’t be stupid! Your career began WAY before she was in the picture.

  6. Sharper_Teeth says

    September 20, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Bieber
    Baldwin

  7. MiaIrish says

    September 20, 2018 at 8:30 am

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Beiber

    His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin (wife if you believe the stories)

    [Optional] What do you think he should/will do? He SHOULD get the prenup. He probably won’t.

  8. gailpow says

    September 20, 2018 at 7:46 am

    Gotta be Justin Bieber and his fiance Hailey Baldwin.
    Steven Baldwin is telling Biebs -no pre-nup, so daughter Hailey cleans up in a divorce. Bieber’s Pastor wants to protect his gravy train so he’s advising Biebs to get that paper signed. The Bieb’s should get a pre-nup to protect himself.

  9. xxNYGirl says

    September 20, 2018 at 7:33 am

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber

    His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin

    CLUES: Her parents have been married for 28 years – Stephen is more famous
    Mention of ‘faith’ multiple times – Justin v involved in church

  10. thisisannoying says

    September 20, 2018 at 5:37 am

    Justin Bieber and Hayley Williams

    Get the pre-nup!!! Of COURSE her dad would try and get her a better deal

  11. oyevey says

    September 20, 2018 at 4:44 am

    Bieber & Baldwin

  12. Lea214 says

    September 20, 2018 at 3:32 am

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  13. alinaa says

    September 20, 2018 at 3:16 am

    Bieber and Baldwin

  14. Alilovesshoes says

    September 20, 2018 at 3:02 am

    Bieber, hailey Baldwin, her dad and Usher?

  15. tinker belle says

    September 20, 2018 at 3:00 am

    Justin Beiber and Hailey Baldwin with Stephen Baldwin telling him to forgo a prenup and the pastor at Hillsong church telling him that its a test. He should def go for a prenup.

  16. Liv3459 says

    September 20, 2018 at 2:48 am

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin.

    I hope he does

  17. pflower says

    September 20, 2018 at 1:50 am

    Must be beiber n hailey Baldwin with her dad Stephen Baldwin telling bieber not to do a prenup and the church pastor telling him to do it. They all have their eyes on the prize ultimately. Although i think beiber should do a prenup.

  18. Urneighbour says

    September 20, 2018 at 12:01 am

    Obviously Justin Bieber and Haley Baldwin.

  19. aaakste says

    September 19, 2018 at 11:28 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin for sure

  20. babette says

    September 19, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    The Biebs & that Baldwin chick.

    Not a huge fan of Justin but that dude has worked hard for his money (for the most part) and should definitely get a prenup.

  21. loreil says

    September 19, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    Bieber and Baldwin

  22. Beachbum says

    September 19, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    The Biebster.
    I’d get one.

  23. dalicecooper says

    September 19, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber
    His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin

    You should always get the prenup. Always. Always.
    So of course, he won’t.

  24. Panda says

    September 19, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    The Biebs
    Hailey Baldwin
    Absolutely go for the prenup.

  25. Gerseychick says

    September 19, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    Steven needs to shut up..His house in New York has been foreclosed numerous times…But someone in the family always pays the bill.Justin don’t be STUPID…She is a beautiful gal, but be smart…Get married but get the prenuptial….

  26. Laughing1 says

    September 19, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Bieber.

  27. aaam.g.o says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:58 pm

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber

    His Fiancee:Hailey Baldwin

    What do you think he should/will do? DO THE PRENUP!!

  28. Justmyself says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Justin and the Baldwin girl.

    PRENUP! He’s worth over 250million by most reports compared to her 3mill. Of course her father doesn’t want them to have a prenup, he is bankrupt financially and morally for doing what he’s doing about Justin. He wants Justin’s fortune to be fair game because let’s be real here.. she was always a rebound girl and frankly, I think Justin is doing this to hurt Selena. Plus they’ve been together and engaged for a short time. Theirs is a marriage that won’t…

  29. Baileygirl says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    No idea on the identity of this couple. If you are getting married in a religious ceremony you are vowing to stay together for better or worse. Thinking about a divorce before marriage is contrary to the spirit of a union of two people’s lives.

  30. thomk065 says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    Poor little Steven Baldwin. He’s running to that money. Pathetic.

  31. radmom says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    Bieber. The Baldwin family would love to get some of that Bieber cash, and his pastor doesn’t want to lose the money Biebs provides. I’d get the prenup

  32. Haydes says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    Justin and Hailey

  33. KlaireBear says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:31 pm

    Bieber and Baldwin. Get that prenup!

  34. ninanicole says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    Bieber and Hailey Baldwin
    Get the prenup, but make sure both sides are happy with it. Put a cheating and drug abuse clause.

  35. chica1984 says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    Bieber
    Baldwin

  36. pawpaw says

    September 19, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    Bieber
    Hailey Baldwin
    Get a prenup!

  37. Parade says

    September 19, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    Bieber
    Baldwin with her broke mooch of a father.
    Get a pre-nup Justin, Hailey’s parents don’t pay their bills, house has been foreclosed on and his brothers are tired of supporting him. Now he’s trying to snare Justin. Sad and funny.

  38. kelseykkm says

    September 19, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  39. Violets says

    September 19, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Bieber. Get the prenup. Of course fiance’s father would suggest not getting one. Sheesh.

  40. Sleepyandconfused says

    September 19, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Biebs
    Baldwin

    He shouldn’t get married cause he does it for all the wrong reasons

  41. Fanastasia says

    September 19, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  42. Blkgoddess says

    September 19, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    Bieber. Make her sign the prenup.

  43. sarphati says

    September 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    Justin and Hailey. He better get the prenup or he will be supporting a huge branch of the Baldwin Family Tree!

  44. kc1977 says

    September 19, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    A jo- bro

  45. boyjack4 says

    September 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    Briber
    Hailey Baldwin
    Get the prenup

    • boyjack4 says

      September 19, 2018 at 5:08 pm

      Beiber ugh

  46. amagod121 says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    Justin Belieber
    Hailey Baldwin

    Optional: get the prenup but also make it fair to her.

  47. pancakephanny says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Justing Bieber
    Hailey Baldwin

  48. wendybar says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Bieber/Baldwin

  49. ivy3499 says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    Bieber
    Hailey

  50. charlene2345 says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    Hailey Baldwin and Justin Bieber.

    What I think: When you’re young and in love, you don’t think about your relationship ending. People think they will be together forever, but that is not reality. He will probably not always be successful and wealthy, since the entertainment industry ebbs and flows, so he should protect his assets. Unfortunately, he does not seem like the type of person who thinks ahead so I don’t think he will have her sign anything so he’ll end up broke one day.

  51. TerryP says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    One word to Mr. Bieber — GET A PRE-NUP! No ifs, ands, or buts.

  52. Jelly Drop says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Has to be Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin.
    Stephen Baldwin and the Hilltop church’s Pastor Carl Lentz are in his ears.

    He will sign a prenup. At least i hope he does because sorry to be cynical but this has balls all chance of lasting.

  53. spaceship says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Justin and Hailey, and getting a prenup would be the smart thing to do, especially in today’s world, where taking marriage seriously doesn’t seem to be all that important to people, especially young people.

  54. BunnieBoo says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    Celeb: Justin Bieber
    No Prenup: Stephen Baldwin

  55. Amethyst says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:12 pm

    Justin Beiber
    Hailey Baldwin

  56. BobNYC says

    September 19, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Biebs
    Hailey
    He’s deeply stupid, so.. he’s creating a path to lose his entire fortune.

  57. RadiantA says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    Biebs and Hailey Baldwin. He should definitely get the pre-nup. If it’s his pastor advising him to do it, good chance he actually will.

  58. aaaTorya says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber

    His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin

  59. ashleyb234 says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Justin Bieber

    He should get a damn prenup!!!! A prenup doesn’t mean if they divorce she’ll get nothing… in the prenup it should say she’ll get alimony for a certain amount of time and if they have kids she’ll get child support, PERIOD. Her father is just trying to swindle Justin and I pray he isnt stupid enough to believe this BS

  60. brazilianwax says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey
    And i couldn’t agree more, she wouldn’t be focused on money!

  61. wonderingaround says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Justin and Hailey

    What do you think he should/will do?

    I think he obviously should! …his in law saying he shouldn’t do a prenup is a BIG sign that he should do it! I don’t think he should be married in the first place…

  62. Lindylou says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    Biebs
    Hayley Baldwin.
    Biebs is nuts if he doesn’t get a pre nup. It’s obvious the Baldwins want to live off his money. Mooches.

  63. gc02ef says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Bieber
    Haley B
    Def get a prenup

  64. zappy2050 says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    I didn’t do a prenup and I have been married for almost 30 years. We have accumulated a LOT together but who knows. If I was rich in the beginning, I might have done a prenup – but who knows.

  65. smuthound says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:15 pm

    The Biebs.

  66. More_Cowbell says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    Bieber and Hailey Baldwin.

    She’s pretty flaky. I’d do a prenup.

  67. badgerette85 says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Biebs/Baldwin??
    Did they legally marry or not? Haven’t followed.

  68. Omi751 says

    September 19, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    Baldwin/Bieber ?

  69. amesr09 says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin. He should definitely get a prenup. IT is obvious he is not mentally ok at the moment and this girl and her family are taking advantage of a very vulnerable person. Shame on them. Also thought they married already?

  70. Aurora says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  71. F Thevenot says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    Justin Bieber getting conflicting advice from Alec Baldwin and Usher.

  72. High Steppa says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    Biebs and Hailey B, Get the pre-nup! The marriage won’t last more than 2 years.

  73. FiyahHotFlashy says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    Beiber and Hailey Baldwin….don’t be foolish, get a prenup ASAP

  74. toniclovesdenver says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    Justin Beiber
    Hailey Baldwin

  75. aduckky says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Young Male Celebrity: Justin Bieber

    His Fiancee: Hailey Baldwin

    The other male is probably his pastor Carl Lenz, who doesn’t want to lose church money if the marriage doesn’t work out.

    Justin, get a prenup. You already have too many people leeching off you.

  76. carriebradshaw says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Justin Bieber/Hailey Baldwin

  77. ChiCityGirl2 says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  78. MikeInSanJose says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    Biebs and Baldwin

    The washed-up loser Stephen Baldwin wants Hailey to get it all. Biebs’ preacher wants to make sure he and his church are Biebs’ main beneficiaries…

    • spaceship says

      September 20, 2018 at 10:36 am

      It appears that the preacher is just giving Justin good, sound advice, as to his motives behind it, I can’t speak on because I don’t know him to judge him as such, but Justin is worth a lot of money, and he should protect it and himself.

  79. angelbratt says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    Bieber
    Hayley

  80. Vidalia Q Intrigue says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    Justin Bieber, Hailey Baldwin

  81. Mareep says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    Celebrity: Bieber
    Fiancée: Hailey Baldwin, in the running for the title of Thirstiest * of the Year.

    It’s probably the head of that creepy church he’s part of, telling him to get the pre-nup. All their congregants tithe 10% of their earnings to the church, so it’s in that pastor’s interest to help keep Bieber’s bank account intact.

    • spaceship says

      September 20, 2018 at 10:32 am

      People tithe because in God’s word (bible), it tells them to, has nothing to do with the pastor’s interest. Also, it’s only wise that Justin get a prenup, because he has a lot of money, that’s just using your brain.

    • flower says

      September 23, 2018 at 1:33 am

      @spaceship – I agree with everything you said.

  82. Brightspark says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Justin Bieber
    Hailey Baldwin
    If she really is genuine, what would signing a prenup matter?

    • spaceship says

      September 20, 2018 at 10:28 am

      One word….money!

    • nycmadam says

      September 20, 2018 at 10:43 am

      No matter how much you love each other, things can go sour, Then anger and hurt drives the divorce. Look at Brangelina and the mess they’re in now.

  83. carrieva9 says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Justin Bieber and the Baldwin girl

    He SHOULD get one but he’s about as dumb as rocks so I’d have to guess he’ll not.

    it’s pretty obvious that hillsong cult members want to encourage him to marry for life so that’s why Male Friend #2 wants the pre-nup despite marriage being a SaCreD CoVeNaNt BeFoRe GoD….HA!

  84. nycmadam says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    Justin Bieber

    Hailey Baldwin

    Prenup! There is too much money involved in JB’s side.

  85. SayItAintSo says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:07 pm

    Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin

  86. sabrina325 says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    Justin Bieber, Hailey Baldwin

  87. Miami PoLo41 says

    September 19, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    Justin Bieber
    Get a pre-nup!

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