F*ggots Don’t Make It In This Town

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I’m a well-known American film actor and I’m a closeted homosexual.

I will not reveal who I’ve worked with or what I’ve starred in obviously, as I don’t want to be identified. I love my career, and I know I would lose my leading man status if I ever came out. I feel terribly guilty about many different things.

First of all, I feel like I’m misleading my fans. I know a lot of women watch my movies to watch me, and part of that is fantasy, and I feel like it’s all based on a lie. They do a lot of market analysis in Hollywood. I get told about which demographics I do well with, and I feel like I’m misleading so many people, or letting them down.

I am dating another well known personality, and we’ve been publicly together for a while now. I know she expects to get married, the press expect us to get married, but of course this would be a great disservice to her. Truth be told I think she knows. She is a wonderful woman and a wonderful person and I don’t deserve someone as loving and trusting in my life, and I truly do love her, but I’m not in love with her, and sex with her, despite her beauty, is difficult for me.

I also feel terribly guilty because I know there are so many gay kids out there and I feel like by not coming out, and not providing that public display of being gay and being successful I’m letting them down. Public figures like Ellen DeGeneres coming out when I was younger made a huge difference to me, and I feel like I should be paying it forward, but I’m too afraid of my whole life being ruined.

I’ve only told a few people. I’ve been with two men since my career has started. Both have been, thankfully, very discrete. My two best friends from before I became mainstream know, and have been supportive. I’ve told two gay actors who have come out because I trusted they would keep it to themselves, having been in the same position. They were comforting and told me to do what I needed to do, but it didn’t assuage my guilt at all. I tested the water with my agent, who basically told me “F*ggots don’t make it in this town,” and then went on to basically explain that he would never represent a gay man because the effort versus the money just makes it not worth it to him. It frankly terrifies me. I just wanted to get it out there.


His Celebrity Girlfriend:

His Agent:

Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 1:

Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 2:

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    • Wondering says

      Bradley Cooper was 22-ish when Ellen came out. This matches the “when I was younger” clue, so someone Cooper’s age or younger is a good guess.

      However, he has not been dating Suki “for awhile.” And she is 20 years old. No one, press or fans and I doubt even her, expect them to get married. He is 18 years older than her.

      So, IMO, Bradley Cooper just doesn’t fit. His agent, BTW, is David Bugliari (Alyssa Milano’s husband).

    • stanton says

      THIS IS 99% Bradley Cooper. If you look at the closing credits on “SNL” when Bradley did a walk on role (When Zach Galifianakis was hosting) he was just staring lovingly into Jason Sudeikis direction. Bradley wasn’t looking at the audience like the other cast members he had a lovelorn look aimed at Jason.

      • ChocoIateOxygen says

        Yeah, we know Bradley Cooper is gay. But that doesn’t mean this is him.

    • Stackhouse says

      Bradley Cooper may be gay, but he is nowhere *near* as empathetic and conscientious as this guy. This does not match his personality. In that aspect, Andrew Garfield seems more believable and would be a better guess; although it’s not necessarily my guess.

  1. prleonard2 says

    I don’t know, but I feel really bad for this person. I would support this person if he came out, but I get why he doesn’t.

    • PandoraWolf says

      As do I. Hey, I’m a straight chick and some of these “are they or aren’t they gay” actors I wouldn’t CARE if they were steaming up the scene with another guy. It’d still be eye candy to me!

      • JenLTX says

        Knowing Matt Bomer is gay did not make me drool over him even a tiny bit less in Magic Mike. It isn’t as though ANY actor is “obtainable” anyway, so who CARES???

      • thefantasticspazzomatic says

        I think Zachary Quinto is a fox and he’s out. Matt Bomer just oozes homosexuality, and that is a turn-off for me, personally, but a lot of women DO. NOT. CARE.

        Enough of the game playing in Hollywood. I wish someone would be real for once. Publicists should try honesty as a means of “selling” their clients, enough spinning stupid stories and having them carry on fake relationships where the two people have NO CHEMISTRY, that even a blind chimpanzee can tell they are a contract couple.

  2. zeep says

    “Paying it forward” makes me think of Kevin Spacey, but there’s no way the rest of the clues fit him. This is someone much younger.

      • Bromance1979 says

        I think 4sixx2 is pointing out that this actor needs a new agent, not that the blind is about NPH. He’s saying NPH has a successful career and is out, so if he can do it, others can as well.

        I have a feeling it’s someone who doesn’t have a lot of rumours about them being gay (like Jake G and Bradley Cooper).

        Bradley Cooper has been casually dating a model for a few months, so I doubt anyone expects them to get married.

      • 4sixx2 says

        Thanks for the clarification, Bromance! You’re exactly right about what I meant- thank you. BTW, I’m a she, straight, and I LOVES ME some NPH!!!

      • YoGo8c says

        Where’ve you been? I love Jake. And Jake G is the king of gay rumours.

        And you don’t ‘date Taylor Swift’ to date Taylor Swift. You date her to ‘date her’.

        Barring Reese, Jake usually ‘dates’ much younger women, presumably because they’re naive aspiring sorts needing a quick career boost.

    • rosiedoes says


      How…? I mean… Coma or horrific crash onto a desert island with nothing but a basket ball for company?

      • 4sixx2 says

        LOL, rosiedoes, sorry for my consuming comment. I meant the Subject should get a new agent and look to NPH as a role model. Ha, you made me think of Wilson!

    • PinkSlip says

      Darling I don’t know what remote village you’re living in, but the whole world knows NPH is gay….his life partner and their twin boys are all over the media, and always have been.

  3. robirob052 says

    Suicide attempt? Maybe in a spur of a moment thing, but writing this letter goes beyond spur of a moment since it does take to time to write post and then send it anonymously on a fake set up online account that cannot be traced back directly at the actor in question.

    Actors (or closet cases in general) who are that sad about their closet case status usually go to shrinks and take medication for depression or go the other way and self destruct by taking drugs/alcohol and have anonymous sex without condoms (to get some STI like HIV to punish themselves even further).

  4. Fergus says

    This could be probably 2/3 of the leading men in Hollywood. The other 1/3 just hide it better.

  5. scumby says

    Brad Pitt
    Angelina Jolie
    Kevin Huvane
    Neil Patrick Harris and Ian McClellan.
    (I don’t believe Ed Norton Kevin Spacey or Elijah Wood have come out)

    • annasophie says

      if this was brad pitt, i can’t see angie blowing a gasket over it – especially since she is a bisexual woman. she’s too open minded.

      • PinkSlip says

        Yeah, and Brad wouldn’t be frettin’ either—their marriage works for both of them.

    • Wondering says

      Brad Pitt was 33 when Ellen came out. This is probably someone younger. And agent Kevin Huvane is openly gay. Doubt he’d be so insensitive about a client coming out.

  6. PatioPrincess says

    I can think of so many gay actors that have come out and are doing fine that I don’t understand why this is an issue? Cruise, Travolta, Clooney etc. Who really cares?

    Anyways I’ll go with Chris Hemsworth and Miley Cirus just becasue…

  7. minx says

    I’m going with Bradley Cooper. I don’t know who his current girlfriend is after Zoe Saldana, and I can’t make a guess as to which gay actors these are.

  8. Jester says

    Actor: Brad Pitt
    Girlfriend: Angelina Jolie
    Agent: John Levin
    Out Gay Actor 1: Sean Hayes
    Out Gay Actor 2: Jessie Tyler Ferguson

    • sugarbread says

      Andrew Garfield
      emma stone: who is prob bi herself
      agent :dunno
      gay friends both u listed

  9. Ivanna Funkalot says

    The one thing that stands out to me is it seems that according to this site EVERY man in the industry is bi or gay, mostly closeted. “F*ggots” seem to run the industry, so them “not making it in this town” doesn’t ring very true anymore. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, lol.

    • YoGo8c says

      Oh don’t panic there are lots of straights but there are gay agents and reps actually inning bi/gay actors more than anyone realises, patrolling sites like this to see what folk are saying about their clients. Then they straighten them up.

      It’s ridiculous. Even gay bloggers like Perez Hilton have been bought off as PR mouthpieces for the bigger agencies in return for exposure.

  10. rosiedoes says

    The way it is written leaves me almost certain that it is a Brit, although I feel like a Brit would be less influenced by Ellen’s coming out.

    Personally, I read it in Daniel Radcliffe’s voice, but I suspect it’s someone a little bit older.

  11. jonesing says

    This is a guess and I’m pulling things out of the ethers because I don’t really see any clues.
    Jake Gyllenhall
    Alyssa Miller gf
    That’s all I have

  12. Dragon says

    it Cant be Bradly Cooper since His Model isn’t Famous. Cant me Ryan Gosling his agent is a female. This Doesnt sound like a Famous A- lister but who knows.

    Actor:Andrew Garfield

    Personality girlfriend: Emma Stone

    How about Chris Pine

    Gay Actor:Zachary Quinto

    I Dont know.

      • Syd Wishes says

        I think if this is real, then it is Andrew Garfield too. Despite the American Film Actor statement that could be deliberate misdirection or the fact that he stars in American-made/Hollywood films.

      • cadaver11 says

        He was born in New York but his parents are British and he lived in the UK a lot when he was younger.

    • Magal says

      I thought about Chris Pine too. I have a gay vibe from him (even though it looks like he dated a few models), he knows Zachary Quinto very well and the “I would lose my leading man status” part of the blind could refer to his role as ‘Captain Kirk’ (Star Trek movies).

      But his current gf isn’t that famous, is she?

  13. JenJenJen says

    Ryan Gosling? A long shot…
    Celeb Gf: Eva Mendes (been public for over a year)

    He would be young when Ellen came out and I think they’re pretty good friends too.

    • MyCatLovesTV says

      Yeah, I thought of Ryan Gosling, too. And I would love him if his true love was a consenting sheep. But I really would not like this to be about him.

  14. guiltywhispers says

    If we are talking “well-known”, my guess would be Jake Gyllenhaal. Ben Whishaw just came out as gay, but he is British and married to a man.

  15. kermit1969 says

    Actor: Liam Hemsworth

    Girlfriend: Miley Cyrus

    His Agent: William Morris

    Out Gay Actor 1: Zach Quinto

    Out Gay Actor 2: Jeremy Renner

    • PandoraWolf says

      Jeremy Renner hasn’t come out. He just had a kid (not that closeted gays can’t have them)….not that I can say he’s straight or otherwise. He’d still be hot, though.

    • tonisl says

      Ijelly, just found several references while I was awaiting my comment above to be approved. I’ve been enlightened

  16. Okayeah says

    Everybody in Hollywood knows who’s gay and who’s not, and there are very few – if any – “innocent” women in the dark about their bearding status. Dude can’t spell “discreet” correctly, either. “Discrete” means being detached from others. Well, maybe that is what he meant. L

    • winona says

      I thought I was being such a pedant for catching that ‘discrete’ as well, I feel somewhat better for not being the only one. 😉

    • Aligirl21 says

      I’m glad that I’m not the only one who was bugged by the “discrete” gaffe. Lol.

      And, yes, hopefully this person finds the courage to come out.

  17. mizzavrid says

    Actor: Bradley Cooper

    Girlfriend: Suki Waterhouse

    Agent: someone @CAA

    Gay Actor 1: Victor Garber

    #2: ?

      • PandoraWolf says

        Seriously! I’m sure there has to be an agent in Hollywood who PREDOMINANTLY represents GLBT (whether known or unknown) and I find it very hard to believe that this is a blanket attitude that F’s don’t make it in Hollywood. If this person did a little digging, he could likely find a new agent that might make him at least feel better about being nervous about being found out, or one that could make him feel comfortable enough to say “eff it!” and be truthful about his sexuality. His agent sounds like a bigot trying to play off his bigotry by claiming it’s a money issue. I doubt it.

        Although it sort of sounds like MONEY (his career) is a driving force. So long as he makes money being a leading man, he’ll deal with the situation? Why not be honest, take the financial hit, and live a simpler life true to yourself?

      • jasper says

        I read this last week and saw several people commenting that an agent could make or break your career. It sounds to me like this is a case of “stay quiet or your career is over” threat, if the agent does have some sway in Hollywood. I can think of half dozen actors whose careers were in the slumps, did change agents, then started working steadily again. This person might not have A-list potential right now and is worried over losing everything if coming out backfires on him.

        Also, I’m thinking he’s 20s to early 30s, tops. I doubt he’s hit 35.

  18. Andreinac13 says

    Brad Pitt? George Clooney? Justin Thoroux? (sp?) This is so juicy, but I don’t want this person to get outed yet. Let him come out on his own terms.

    • august says

      Thought Brad Pitt but Justin Thoroux first.
      And she suppposedily knows he thinks.
      Don’t see Angie put up with is or even Jennifer?
      This is good one.

  19. HermioneG says

    I have no idea, could be anyone. But this is disheartening. The most shocking part to me is what the agent said. 1) classy, dude!; 2) if he’s not up to the challenge it’s probably because he’s not talented enough and refuses to admit it.

    That being said, if I had that man in front of me, I would start with giving him a hug because he sounds like he needs one, then I would advise him to ponder whether sacrificing his identity/private life/values is worth the celebrity and public image (which is not only a lie, but to add to that is belittled by his own freaking agent). Not to mention the poor girl seems to be a sweetheart and will end crushed.

    Basically, everything is wrong, wrong, wrong!

    He should come out. Not now, on his terms but he should. Because there is a little guy out there who is waiting for a leading man like him to do so, because there is a little girl out there who will realize that it’s ok to be gay, she doesn’t have to drool over men. And because older people will receive him arms wide open, be they gay or straight allies. Finally, because one day, if he has the chance to live a long life, he will wake up a morning and realize that his whole life is behind him, that it was a lie, that he was miserable and that it’s to late to get another chance.

    Courage, dear actor, there are more things to you than being gay (obviously, if you’re successful) and if anything people like NPH, Ricky Martin, Jim Parsons, Zach Quinto and so on proved us they still can entertain us without having to be the token gay in what they do.

  20. kermit1969 says

    Actor: Bradley Cooper

    His Girlfriend: Suki Waterhouse

    His agent: CAA

    Out Gay Actor 1: Zachary Quinto

    Out Gay Actor 2: Victor Garber

    • lepidoteran says

      I think yours is the best guess I’ve seen. Especially considering some others are guessing “out” actors that *aren’t* out.

  21. Elesdee says

    Jake Gyllenhaal possibly. It says celebrity girlfriend and he’s dating a model (or so Google tells me).

    • IJelly says

      Jake only just started dating her. The relationship he describe in letter sounds like it’s been going on longer than that.

  22. cory says

    Andrew Garfield. He was born in America, but grew up in the UK.

    His Celebrity Girlfriend: Emma Stone

  23. Fergus says

    I must be funny, because when I see guys like John T, Tom C, Jeremy R, George, Jake, Elijah, Zachary, and even JLaw and Jodie Foster on the screen, I couldn’t care less about their private lives. I’m just there to see their movie. What/who they do in bed doesn’t even occur to me, and certainly has zero bearing on if I see their films, but if they go political, and start postulating…that is a whole ‘nother story.

    • PatioPrincess says

      Exactly! I don’t mind watching them act as they’re all good at their craft. But, STFU about politics thank you very much. I don’t want to hear anything about where they stand or whom they support. It amazes me when actors speak up and end up alienating 1/2 of their fanbase. STFU already and entertain me.

  24. annasophie says

    i like the ryan gosling/eva mendes guess.

    i have no idea who his friends are, though.

    • boyjack4 says

      Ryan is Canadian though, not American! And as had long standing relationships before! Seems the last one to be gay!!

  25. Best Man says

    Oh, please. He should stop listening to his people and just come out already. If Neil Patric Harris can do it and still carry an entire show playing a straight male player then why can’t this guy? NPH came out and became a better actor and seemingly happier person because of it. Honest to goodness, even if George Clooney, let say, came out I would still think he is the best actor and an incredible leading man. A talented actor can make you believe his character is gay, straight, good, bad, hot, ugly, right, wrong. His personal preference has zero to do with his talent.

  26. slantrhyme says

    Oh sweetie…the truth will set you free. It’s ok. Get a new agent. And come out. That’s why it’s called acting. We all know Spacey and Travolta are gay and that doesn’t diminish their great acting skills or the enjoyment we get from their films. You are obviously from a younger generation…the world is changing. It’s ok. <3

    I have no idea who this is but my heart is with him.

    Also, although he says he is an American film actor, his writing sounds British. Maybe a British actor who makes American films? Other clues: before he became mainstream…so he might've been in smaller, indie movies? And the gf is also a celeb he's been dating for a while.

  27. Stackhouse says

    Awww. I don’t know who this person is, but he really got to me. I’m not gay, nor am I famous, but I empathize – and sympathize. He seems like a good person, which I think is quite rare in Hollywood. At the end of the day, he needs to decide what’s more important; the freedom to live as himself and love who he loves – or his career? Like we all know, there are people who took a chance on the first one, and are still going strong. But, there’s a risk it won’t work that way for everyone, so is the risk worth it? I say; YES.

    I wish him the best of luck, and I hope that one day in the near future, he will be able to live openly as a gay man – as he should.

  28. potatus says

    Staying in the closet (for all the right or wrong reasons) is maintaining “The Closet”. If everyone came out, there would be NO closet and kids coming up would have brave, honest, and decent role models regardless of their sexuality!! That we still even have the damn closet is heartbreaking!

  29. IJelly says

    This sounds like Bradley Cooper.

    For the record, I don’t blame him for staying the closet. If it’s so easy to be a gay leading man in Hollywood, how come all the character actors haven’t come out already.

    That said, he shouldn’t marry the straight girl. She deserves more than what he can give her. He should go find a nice lesbian actress in a similar situation. They can make a beautiful babies and he, she and their respective partners can go out on double dates.

    • Virgo826 says

      Taylor was just 5yo when Ellen came out. I think it’s probably someone about 10-15 years older then Taylor

  30. sshhhx says

    hmmm I’m unsure of this one but I’m going to say NO to Brad Cooper, Pitt etc and here is why:The post states that Ellen coming out inspired them when they were younger and I could be reading this wrong but I think this points to it being someone younger. Maybe someone younger who has started their career in the past few years and has been given leading male roles in, I’m assuming, rom-coms, soppy movies as women would love that style of character. Cooper=Hangover Movies and I don’t believe he fits the bill. He is publicly going out with someone well known for some time…. And press expects marriage-this and the comment about being young and Ellen coming out I believe are the biggest clues…. I’m going to wrack my brains on this one…

    • KatarinaJ says

      Or could easily be ‘manly’ roles that require a lame hetero stereotype to maintain.

  31. knickers says

    If this is Bradley Cooper, I must say I already assume the rumors are true about his sexual orientation but I still love him (and watch him in movies) for his looks and talent!

  32. knickers says

    One more thought… Do we think it is someone who caters to a younger audience? I feel like women in their 20s or older might still think a gay man is attractive/crush-worthy but teens or younger adults and Tweens are looking at make stars to adore and imagine as boyfriends?

    So, Taylor Lautner or someone with that kind of fan base?

  33. KatarinaJ says

    The real reasons I think this can’t be Pitt are, he is old enough in his career the ‘not making it in Hollywood’ really wouldn’t apply to his past and future trajectory would it? Also no agent would talk to Pitt this way. Seems like someone (obviously an A-HOLE!) would school a younger up and comer not a seasoned actor this way. The hints that TOO nod at Brad are he is known as a stoner/drinker/etc in various circles and cites dark periods in his past (even present I think with the drinking ala gossip) and also that Angie and he are supposed swingers and ‘dark play’ fetish types. Maybe he can cover up or push aside his tendencies in these circumstances. But still, I don’t see it being Brad. The serial monogamy with actresses he has mostly met on set in roles and been with for LONG stretches can smack of a closeted male in some circumstances but I don’t think here.
    Also I don’t think Brad would talk about ‘Ellen coming out when he was younger’ because he wasn’t some young un when Ellen came out. The guesses are inane for the actors. Jeremy Renner, George Clooney, Cruise NONE of these guys have come out. It’d be a Rupert Everett, Neil Patrick Harris, Zachary Quinto, someone who HAS. How can you guess anyone would come out to CLOONEY? Guy portrays himself as the most hetero guy on the planet.

  34. OoLaLana says

    I don’t want to put a name out there since I have no idea who it is.

    BUT… regardless of who it is, his fear is understandable but not his selfishness and cruelty towards his female friend. So at the very least, he should find a way to let her go… even if he doesn’t come out.

  35. brainy says

    Taylor Lautner and Marie Avgeropoulos. Rumors about his suicide attempt in the past few months.

    Friends: Twilight castmates

  36. twinklefairy12 says

    I think it’s a well-known smaller actor. So, not Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling, Joshua Jackson only because they’ve already “made it”. Why would the agent say “faggots don’t make it in this town” if the subject has already made it?

    My money’s on Taylor Lautner or someone in his generation or at his experience-level.

  37. FlyingSnickerdoodle says

    This made me sad to read. Poor actor guy, whoever he is! So much fakery and hypocrisy in the acting and entertainment industry! The business needs a complete overhaul and set of ”rules” (actually there shouldn’t be any ridiculous “rules” such as this in the first place). I usually take the given photo as a strong clue. This man has beautiful light-colored eyes, and a similar appearance to — Bradley Cooper.

  38. Mumumumu says

    That’s so sad. How can you deny or be ashamed of who you are? Life is so short, why waste it trying to please people that don’t care about you.

    And in the end, all the best kept secrets become public anyway.

  39. sherlock says

    So which actor has been dating a famous female personality long time?It sounds easy doesn’t it.

  40. Nomad says

    I’m thinking Owen Wilson. He attempted suicide a while back (2007). His gf just had a baby, but the author said he had sex with his gf, and it was difficult.

  41. reverie says

    I’m going to guess Brad Pitt.

    His Celebrity Girlfriend: Angelina Jolie

    His Agent: idk whoever his agent is

    Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 1: Neil Patrick Harris

    Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 2: Idk

    The clues and the Jennifer Aniston picture posted for the BG12345 makes me think of him.

  42. ATLmel says

    First time poster!

    Hayden Christensen
    Rachel Bilson

    The clues seem like him over Bradley Cooper. Hayden and Rachel have been together for a long time. He is starting to act again and he is a fairly well known actor after the Star Wars movies.

  43. Arsinoe says

    This definitely sounds like George Clooney.

    Celebrity Girlfriend: Stacy Kiebler

    Agent: ???

    Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 1: ??

    Out Gay Actor in whom he confided 2: ??

    • nolabelle says

      Def the colons
      GF:the keibler( who he recently dumped-did u notice they had absolutely zero chemistry)
      Actor1: idk
      Actor2: idk maybe actors he has worked with in the past? Otherwise, randy gerber, but he isn’t an actor, as far as I know, & maybe Kevin Spacey, since he likes to hang out inLondon & its parks( cough, cough)-seems a European placed actor a safer choice to confide in.

      I think the agent was telling the reality of a “romantic” leading actor no longer being viable in those lead roles anymore. Of course, he could get other roles, but not the Cary grant longevity that he seems to be striving for( or rock Hudson). Their secrets were kept hidden in those days. Ellen was a contemporary of the cloons so it was when he was “younger”.

  44. sugarbread says

    the photo looks just like b-coop in wet hot AMERICAN summer lol..
    but i’m going w/
    leo dicaprio ftw b/c we all know he really loves the boys but will never marry the girls, but lukas has has his heart!!!
    don’t worry leo.. your heart will go on!!

  45. mostlylurker says

    Not brad pitt. The guy is too old, too straight, and wouldnt be on the internet whining about this.
    Not Bradley Cooper. Guy is too self-absorbed to worry about “misleading” people.

    The whole misleading fans thing is a bizarre notion. You dont owe your fans your personal life. The real people in your life is another story.

    • nolabelle says

      True in one sense, about not ” owing” the details of one’s personal life to fans, although I think lying about who you are, deceiving fans just so you can make millions in personal profit and gain is unconscionable and should be objected to. In this sad economic recession, it seems to me that more people might choose how they spend their few dollars rather than giving it to someone who is deliberately deceiving them.

  46. ivyleaguer says

    How about Chris Pine as the actor with Zachary Quinto his star trek co-star as one of the out actors he’s confided in. Though he seems to be only “dating” — and for short terms– no name models seeking fame.

  47. MommaB says

    It is amazing that one of the most liberal places on earth is also one of the most homophobic; and all in the name of money, and what they think “we” want and expect.

    • nolabelle says

      Hypocritical at its best, eh? I don’t think the place is homophobic since they push this agenda, and also use, in reality,the casting couch like it is a merry go round for gay or straight, as long as it does not hurt the almighty profit line. Capitalist corporations& pigs that are usually given a free pass.

  48. La Llorona says

    Ugh, I love that this is where every single idiot comes out with “WELL YOU SHOULD COME OUT, PEOPLE LIKE YOU MORE IF YOU’RE GAY, GAY PEOPLE AREN’T OPPRESSED ANYMORE, BLAH BLAH BLAH” which is total *. You think “Iron Man” or “The Avengers” is going to sell tickets in the Bible Belt because it has openly gay actors? And if you answer yes, you are delusional, *. You think those same movies are going to make money overseas in countries like Russia, which have openly discriminatory laws against LGBT youth? Or in Uganda, where homosexuality is illegal? Being openly gay is no easier today than it was 20 years ago, especially in a country where we once passed a law that prevented gay people from openly volunteering in combat. Mind you, this was during a decade where everyone thought that we could be more open about sexuality because “It’s the 90s”. My point being, you can change the law, but you can’t change the environment and the indoctrinated beliefs that influence it.

  49. sweetretreat says

    If this document is real then it’s Andrew Garfield (and if it’s not it’s who the document is ‘referring’ to). The girlfriend is obviously Emma Stone. They’ve been ‘together’ for quite some time now and are both approaching 30 (so the idea that marriage is something that should be expected aligns perfectly with the social expectation of marriage not to mention the pressure they are getting from the media). Not to ‘out’ Emma Stone but it wouldn’t surprise me if she was in fact a lesbian (marinate in that revelation). I wonder if he knows? He must… Mr. Garfield would have also been 14 around the time Ellen came out (1997). I think this compliments the authors praise of Ellen. For most 14 years living in the 90’s who are gay her coming out story really did impact LGBQT representation especially in the field of pop culture. Anyways this is how I would break it down if I could have a heart-to-heart,

    “F*ggots don’t make it in this town”

    1. Well-known American film actor: Andrew Garfield is a dual citizen. He was born in America and raised in the UK. Also, ‘American film actor’ can also just refer to the movies the actor plays in and Mr. Garfield’s entire career has been predominately American cinema.
    I will not reveal who I’ve worked with or what I’ve starred in: obviously, as I don’t want to be identified: Obliviously because next to everyone else we would know it was you.

    2. I feel terribly guilty about many different things: You should. Living in a world like we do today people need to be authentic and be respected for that. Let’s keep it real if you’re that big of a movie star worse case scenario you might lose some of the zeros off your pay cheques. Plus if you were smart and invested the millions you made before that you should be OK. There are people living in the States that get by on minimum wage (so you will get no sympathy from me).

    3. First of all, I feel like I’m misleading my fans: You sort of are especially if your one of those actors who talks about ‘your ideal girl’ or ‘what you look for in a girlfriend.’ I think you’ve taken the cake with this one since you’re already playing house. So yes, you are misleading your fans : )

    4. I know a lot of women watch my movies to watch me, and part of that is fantasy, and I feel like it’s all based on a lie: This is true.

    5. They do a lot of market analysis in Hollywood. I get told about which demographics I do well with, and I feel like I’m misleading so many people, or letting them down: So grow a pair and do something about it!

    6. I am dating another well known personality, and we’ve been publicly together for a while now: Emma Stone.

    7. I know she expects to get married: Obviously she wants her PEOPLE cover and $$$.

    8. The press expect us to get married: Again wit the $$$$ (greedy mother f*ckers)

    9. Truth be told I think she knows: I would hope so…

    10. She is a wonderful woman and a wonderful person and I don’t deserve someone as loving and trusting in my life, and I truly do love her, but I’m not in love with her, and sex with her, despite her beauty, is difficult for me: Blah, blah, blah. You’re both using each other especially if she’s that aware of you being gay. It’s called PR.

    11. I also feel terribly guilty because I know there are so many gay kids out there and I feel like by not coming out, and not providing that public display of being gay and being successful I’m letting them down: OK! So do something! Talk is cheap.

    12. Public figures like Ellen DeGeneres coming out when I was younger made a huge difference to me, and I feel like I should be paying it forward, but I’m too afraid of my whole life being ruined: You’re entire life won’t be ruined. You might get a hit financially but when you really put everything into perspective I’m sure you will be just fine. If not and you love your job as much as you say you do it’s called the Theatre. If you come to the realization you don’t love acting because it’s not paying the bills then it’s called get a job or a degree like everyone else in the world.

    13. I’ve only told a few people. I’ve been with two men since my career has started. Both have been, thankfully, very discrete: This extra information about your personal life (on reddit I might add) is a bit much. Thanks but no thanks.

    14. My two best friends from before I became mainstream know, and have been supportive: I would hope so. Can you imagine!?! I can see it now the headlines would read, “BEST FRIENDS FROM BEFORE (Insert Actors Name) WAS FAMOUS OUT HIM AND THEN DITCH HIM FOR NEW REALITY TV SERIES.” How horrible would they be? Honestly most people today who are your ‘real’ friends probably already know your gay and just don’t care (and are probably patiently waiting for you not to care as well).

    15. I’ve told two gay actors who have come out because I trusted they would keep it to themselves, having been in the same position: The list is too long… Plus it doesn’t clarify what type of actors (cinema, television, theater, Broadway etc). So I won’t even go there.


  50. ToadKisser says

    Sad to say, if this was written a few weeks ago I would’ve been 100% sold on it being Cory Monteith. Right age, right relationship, makes sense about the target female demo and wanting to be a role model to kids, and there are a few choices of gay friend/actors on Glee. The post like the kind of thing someone might do during a drug and shame spiral.

  51. etobicoker says

    I think that those of you who say he should just come barreling out of the closet are pretty insensitive and perhaps lack an understanding of how Hollywood works.

    Television stars like NPH are mostly working for a North American audience with a little international distribution. Big studio films are different because they make the majority of their money outside of North America and much of it in countries where being Gay is still incredibly taboo. Studios choose their leading men based on their appeal to launch a movie to the widest audience.

    To have reached a point where you have a career or potential career as a leading man in Hollywood is a rare opportunity. That kind of work for 10 years is more money than most people make in lifetimes.

    The writer of this is correct in that the public wants a fantasy in the celebrities personal lives so what’s wrong with giving it to them? There are so and straight couples in Hollywood who date just for PR, and so much manipulation of the press to capture the publics imagination, I feel the celebrity’s public persona is really just another role. A character that the actor plays. To play that character authentically the actor probably has to let some truth in but how much they need to create a convincing performance is up to them.

    • skagen says

      THIS. What you said.

      I think it would fantastic if gay and lesbian actors/singers/whatevers could be out publicly, but everyone on this site and others who chide them that “we live in a different world now!” and criticize them for staying closeted must be incredibly sheltered. If someone lives in this wonderful, accepting new world, terrific. I’m genuinely happy for them. But the assertion that being gay is totally okay in 2013, even if we’re only counting North America or Western Europe, is completely off base.

      No, homosexuality is not okay with a LOT of people, and mass market entertainment products (this is exactly what they are: products) exist by manipulating margins. The difference between a flop and a pot of gold often hinges on how a relatively small percentage of the hoped for audience tunes in or turns away.

      Yes, LA is positively stuffed full of gay and lesbians. Just about any creative endeavor is. But 99.9% of all those super successful gay and lesbians are successful because they are closeted and work hard at maintaining a convincingly straight facade. You want to be gay and successful in LA? Work behind the scenes. Although, frankly, there’s a huge bias against openly gay people there, too.

      Ellen and NPH are great successes. Fantastic! That makes it 2 out of 70,000. People can add, can’t they?

  52. smartiep says

    As a Brit, this piece sounds like it was written by someone who is British or grew up here. “Paying it forward” I guess is an American expression (I’ve never heard it before), but apart from that this does read like a Brit wrote it. Phrasing and the general style is British rather than American.

    “I’m an American film actor” Americans always say “movie actor” don’t they? “film” is a British term.

    If this is an American, either they have a British ghost writer, or they are someone with an American passport, but who grew up in the UK. However, someone brought up in Britain, even with dual nationality, describing themselves as “American” doesn’t seem right to me, unless it was a deliberate attempt to mislead. I think there’s some game playing here.

  53. says

    This makes me so sad… He is obviously not ok with leading this double life and feels so much guilt. This is a surefire road to self destruction to cope with guilt of it all.

  54. sheiselectric says

    This post is really bothering me because I can’t figure it out! All of the actors I think of don’t fit in because of one little thing.
    The only ones that I think could actually be them are:

    hayden christensen
    Zac Efron (I don’t really think it’s him)
    andrew garfield
    Chris Evans
    Michael Trevino (maybe…)

    Btw, a lot of people are saying Bradley Cooper because of the rumours that he’s gay which could possibly be true but he doesn’t fit in the clues: he hasn’t been in a relationship with a famous actress for a long time, no one expect him to get married, he’s too old I think and he’s already made it.

    • IJelly says

      HC – Canadian
      ZE – Ellen came out in 1997, ZE was 10 years old.
      AG – British
      CE – outed his gay brother, someone in the closet would not want to be associated with the topic of homosexuality
      MT – who’s Michael Trevino?

  55. says

    At first I thought I concurred with the BCoop guesses but then I thought, Do I really think Bradley is that genuine and earnest a guy?

    Andrew Garfield has proven time and again that he is a sweetheart and this letter comes from such a heartfelt and honest place, I really think it couldn’t anyone but him. The beautiful lady he loves (but is not in love with) is Emma Stone.

    As for his agents (f*cking assholes, I might add), I don’t know who Andrew is contracted with. Other people on this sight seem to be better with those matters than I am.

    And the two out actors he confided in, I’m not sure. Is there anyone Andrew’s been in a movie with that is out?

  56. YoGo8c says

    The other possibility for this is if it’s genuine, the S/O is a beard, knows she is and consents, and the writer is portraying her as an innocent know-nothing just to protect her/her reputation and career should the truth ever come out or he admit it.

    The trouble with these are that you can’t assume the writer is writing everything honestly and from the heart. I’d like to guess Bradley Cooper but the gf arrangement seems so well-timed and faux I’d be stunned if she didn’t know she was bearding. She must never go on the internet then!

  57. bruinsgal says

    Hey everyone! New poster here!

    Gay actor: Chris Evans
    Celebrity GF: Minka Kelly

    I’m stuck on who the other two out gay actors could be. Anyway, I think the agent is a jerk. Whoever this actor is, he needs to find someone new to represent him. How can someone say that gays don’t make it in Hollywood when the majority of Hollywood consists of successful gays who are either actors, directors, and producers?