BG12345: Friday

Dear Blinders,

Happy Friday! Here’s a BG12345 to start your weekend off right!

Love, BG

PS: Here is a unique perspective on one aspect of the Penn State debacle. If you don’t like to mix opinions with your gossip, don’t read it.

OPINION: Why Penn State Must Protect Mike McQueary

Dear Penn State Board of Trustees,

While Mike McQueary might not have done everything perfectly, The Whistleblower must be protected! Firing him sends the very dangerous signal that if witnesses don’t do everything perfectly, they will be punished too. This will dissuade others from coming forward in the future.

Simply witnessing a violent crime can be traumatizing. Both victims AND witnesses must be handled patiently and compassionately. If you want to create an environment of “See something, say something,” on the Penn State campus, you MUST protect those witnesses who DO come forward… even if they don’t do so in a the ideal way or time frame.

Protect The Whistleblower!

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79 comments to BG12345: Friday

  • justjinx

    I don’t think whistleblower is the word I would use to describe this coward. He saw a little boy with his hands up against the wall, with that creep pounding him from behind. Loud enough that he heard slapping sounds when he entered the locker room! He is a big tough guy – does he help the child? No he turns and RUNS! Then he calls his daddy. That was in 2002!!! He deserves to live everyday feeling deep shame, guilt and regret for not helping that boy that day.

    Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks for the chance to vent BG!

  • MrsPatrickBateman

    Is this serious? You witness a child in a horrible predicament and it was traumatic for you? That’s what we’re going to promote? Not do anything and everything to help an innocent. Those kids needed someone to stand up and be a hero. Not someone who was a coward (that is the only word that can be used to describe him). How could you even want to work with someone that is doing that? You don’t tell some one one time, you tell and tell until something happens. Go to the police, physically stop them. No matter how disgusting and heart wrenching for me it would be to see that you can bet it would also raise anger in me and I would do something about it, physically or not something would be done that day. He did not do enough, I’m not worried about him, I’m worried about the kids who have now had their childhoods taken away and their lives forever marked by a heinous crime some could have been saved from. If he had come forward repeatedly or gone to the police or boycotted being in the presence of that man then by all means protect him. He didn’t, he failed those kids. There is NO excuse when this situation happens. None. You need to do everything and anything you can. I pray if my kids ever went through this someone (if not me for whatever reason) would step up and be a hero. I can’t believe there is such a divide over this. Kids were harmed, that should be the only thing people care about. Take down anyone who hurt kids or enabled those who hurt kids. Period.

    • PandoraWolf

      I totally agree with you. I just read the grand jury doc (23 pages and 8 victims) and McQuery was NOT the only one to witness this perv. One janitor saw the guy with ANOTHER young boy in the shower, and then a second person saw the man and boy leave the shower together holding hands. As sickening as this case is, there were so many people to drop the ball on this.

      Another thing that sucks is, isn’t this POS (the pedophile) in his 60s-70s? He doesn’t have enough years left in his life to REMOTELY suffer enough in prison.

  • stolidog

    I think most people would run if they saw the person they knew yesterday doing something completely different today….like your boss raping a child, your mother beating an infant or your brother stabbing a prostitute. It’s so completely opposite of what you expect that you shut down.

    Granted, he did not help that child that day, but he did immediately tell his supervisor and human resources what he saw…I might add that he seems to be the only person that said anything to anyone. He probably spent the last ten years thinking he would be fired if he said anything because he had already said something and nothing had been done.

    • MrsPatrickBateman

      I would rather be fired than to work in a place that covers up a disgusting crime. Plus if he had actually ‘blown the whistle’ and brought to light what was happening he would have been a hero and never would have been without a job.

      • stolidog

        doesn’t work that way in the real world…Penn’s football program is a multi, multi million dollar revenue maker. He probably would have just been fired, paid off probably, but fired. Or worse, set up.
        Money rules the world. What do you think the catholic church has been doing for decades?

      • MrsPatrickBateman

        So what? Be fired. Don’t sit back and know this is happening but do nothing because you’re attached to a good name and getting a good paycheck. There is no excuse at all.

      • FamousPeopleDoStupidThings

        If he went straight to the police after he realized no one else would take action, not only would he be in the right, he’d most likely gain widespread public support for his actions regardless of the opinion of Penn States students. He’d also retain his self respect and as Mrs. Patrick said above, would have a career, if not with this school than with another. Now, those who have common sense will always retain a feeling of strong distain for he and the others involved and if he has any conscience he’ll be plagued with shame and guilt for the rest of his life. Living with such consequences is as it should be.

        Stolidog, I agree, way too many corrupt individuals are in positions of power and are rewarded in the world of action and influence. But nothing compares to the inner peace and pride that’s found in adhering to ones principles. He made the wrong decision and hopefully, he’ll pay for it in spades.

    • GingerNaps

      great points, stol. I think knowing what we should do and want to do –and what we actually do– are often two different things.

  • Aquaboogy

    Sorry BG, but I can’t get on board with this. People think that when you remain silent, you’re not hurting the victim because you’re not “doing” anything. However, remaining silent is a choice, and we need to get that word out. If you CHOOSE to remain silent when you have witnessed sexual abuse, you have CHOSEN to help the attacker. You have likewise CHOSEN to further victimize the person who was raped. When we sugarcoat things like this, we make it easier for people to make that choice. Meanwhile, the victims are likely contemplating suicide or turning to drugs to ease their pain because everyone is acting like this traumatic life event NEVER HAPPENED.

    Even if I disagree with this article, I appreciate you starting the dialogue BG.:) It’s a conversation this country needs to have more of.

  • darkangel9

    @justjinx, well said could not have said it better myself,
    he is nothing but a coward he put himself first
    lets hope he never has a nights sleep again, lets hope he rots in hell

  • whazz it

    Interesting. It might be helpful to understand the inherent problems of being a whistleblower. I found this:

    In another study entitled The Psychology of Whistleblowing, author Joan E. Sieber writes that, “When the other side is powerful, the whistleblower hardly stands a chance of surviving the conflict unscathed, unless great sophistication or institutional wisdom and fairness accompany the process.

    “Unfortunately,” she continued, “most whistleblowers are naive about the precautions they should take, the amount of evidence they must bring forth, and the fact that virtually no one will be on their side when the case gets underway.”

    • FamousPeopleDoStupidThings

      Interesting, indeed!
      Just throwing it out there- I wonder what would have happened if he reported what he knew yet remained anonymous. A number of possibilities come to mind but I have little doubt that it would have significantly changed the entire course of events in one way or another.

    • GingerNaps

      Thanks, Whazz…this is fascinating!

  • stolidog

    No catholics on this board, huh?

    • JeanRalphio

      So the Catholic Church is referenced every time a sex abuse scandal takes place?

      What Catholic Church leadership did with pedophiles and abusers is disgusting, deplorable, and indefensible. I don’t know any Catholics who would claim otherwise. The fact is the cover-up was perpetrated by priests, bishops and catholic clergy not the parishoners. When the Catholic sex abuse scandal was exposed, every Catholic I know was horrified and grossly disappointed that church leaders allowed the systematic abuse of young people to continue. Catholics were not collectively defending Catholic clergy for covering up the crimes.

      I’m not sure what you intended to accomplish with your comment other than to stir up trouble. So I guess mission accomplished.

      McQueary witnessed the rape of young boy. He is as culpable as Joe Paterno or any other Penn State employee who was notified of the crime. Why was Paterno fired? Because he did not notify police. Why should the actual witness, who did nothing to stop the act and protect the boy, be held to a different standard?

      • stolidog

        What i’m attempting to accomplish is that if you STILL follow the catholic faith, then you are obviously not calling for the comdemnation of ratzenburger and a whole big bunch of cardinals, who were complicent in the whole child rape thing.

        Someone would have to have quite the nerve to condemn McQueary, who at least DID SOMETHING, and not the bishops of rome.

        that was my point

    • La Llorona

      But I agree with Jean, you’re making a blanket statement about people who practice a certain faith, and there are people within the church who work actively to fight against child abuse, so your whole argument is null and void. May I remind you that yeah, what the church did was incredibly deplorable, but it wasn’t the only religious organization that’s been found guilty of covering up sex abuse of that magnitude and it probably won’t be the last. I’d like to see you display your faux-rage in any case involving child abuse, (including this one, since it seems you’re engaging in some rape apologist antics up thread, like we wouldn’t see that..) but I would think, from the actions you’re displaying here, you only air your grievances when it’s convenient to where you can project your ignorance when needed. I’m not even religious, and I just think your comment comes across as derailing. It’s like saying anyone who follows football is supporting Sandusky when that’s simply not true.

      But anyway, you’re clearly a troll so I don’t know why I even bother…

      • stolidog

        huh?
        catholics ask forgiveness for the wrongs of their bishops but not for this guy.
        I’m not defending this guy, i’m condeming hypocrites.

  • Okayeah

    It’s an interesting perspective, and a mess all around. But the fact is that he DID tell. It’s an impossible situation to be in.

  • LolaVee

    I could forgive him for being so shocked and traumatized that he didn’t act immmediately. I could even forgive him for calling his father and Paterno instead of the authorities. What I can’t get over is the fact that he stayed silent for NINE years once he realized that his superiors were never going to report it to the authorities. How many times did he show up on campus and walk past Sandusky while he continued to work with young boys?

    The term “whistle blower” only applies when the whistle actually gets blown. In this case it did not, and he will have to live with 9 years of abuse that he could have prevented.

    • MrsPatrickBateman

      Thank you.

    • NotoriousDiG

      Lola, you said EXACTLY what I was thinking.

    • dolceracer

      You go Ms. Lola. You go!

    • ladymarmalade

      I agree, Miss Lola. How can anyone involved look themselves in the mirror knowing they did nothing and let so many boys be abused? They are pathetic excuses for males and in no way real men. McQueary is a big guy and judging from the video they’ve shown of him on the sidelines, he certain doesn’t have a problem yelling at people. If after a little while he saw no action being taken, why not question it further? If that didn’t go anywhere, why not go to the police??? This whole thing makes me so incredibly sad.

    • La Llorona

      Agreed. I’ve been seeing some mind boggling arguments all around today.

    • FamousPeopleDoStupidThings

      Excellent, excellent, excellent!!!

    • Caz1310

      zgree. I’m Australian and don’t really know the details apart from what I’ve read on gossip sites (this thread and those deriding Ashton for his stoopid comments about it). Child abuse is reprehensible. Has it been established why the person/s who saw it didn’t go to the police straight away? Can they report it anonymously? I’m shocked at BG’s attitude on this.

    • MyCatLovesTV

      Amen, LolaVee, amen! The guy was a grad student when he first saw the child being raped. What boggles my mind is that this grad student decided Penn State football is the environment he wanted to make a career in…working side by side with the monsters. I apologize if I didn’t read enough to understand this part of it. It sounds beyond creepy to me.

  • Kashley

    I understand this perspective but there wouldn’t be so much backlash had he ran to the police ASAP. I just wish that when he saw what he saw he would’ve ran in that shower and stopped what was going on.

    • PandoraWolf

      Seriously, I would HOPE that if I saw this, I would kick the living **** out of the guy, and stand up proud in court when I got arrested for attempted murder knowing I did the right thing.

      • MyCatLovesTV

        Most guys I’ve spoken to say the exact same thing! Real MEN protect the vulnerable one way or another.

      • MyCatLovesTV

        …and WOMEN actually. It is the human thing to do. I swear to y’all I simply cannot get my mind wrapped around anybody walking into a rape and not getting help.

  • detroit

    I’ve never experienced anything like that (witnessing something awful that should be reported). I really, really hope I’d run to dial 911. BUT, until I’ve been in such a position, and behaved ‘perfectly’, it’s a little hard for me to judge him.

    1) MOST whistleblowers lose their jobs.

    2) It causes a weird disconnect / disbelief to see something so ‘uncharacteristic’, that you almost don’t want to believe it / trust your eyes.

    Not to trivialize with this example, but once I saw the head of sales at my old company pick a booger and eat it. I never gossiped about it, because even though I clearly saw it, I just thought, he COULD NOT have done that in public.

    About a year later, I was talking to a IT guy, and he referred to the sales head as a ‘creepy booger eater’. lol. I was like, ‘Holy crap, I really DID see that!!’ Then I told everyone – hee hee!

  • phoenix

    BG, you misspelled “Happy Veterans’ Day”

  • BadBadJan

    I hope this man has children. I hope that every day when he looks at them he wonders if anyone would help them if they were in danger or being harmed. I hope his shameless, self serving act of cowardice haunts him ever day of his life. Just google 10 year old child and look at the images of innocent young faces. Those are helpless little babes who still need and deserve the protection of society. This was a grown man who saw this child being molested and allowed it to continue. He didn’t blow the whistle, he turned and ran to daddy to talk over what would be his best move. He was more of a whisperer, someone who quietly tells someone else just so they can blow the whistle and he can stay out of the fray and try to walk away with a clear conscience. It doesn’t work that way. A whistle blower stands up and blows loud enough for others to hear and help to come. That child and the monster who was attacking him saw McQueary. They saw him walk away while the attack continued. What do you think that did to the child? It was a second attack that took away any sense of hope for help. It taught the child that no one cared and no one would help.

    • digitallyspeaking

      AND that this horrific abuse was acceptable to at least two adults.

    • justjinx

      So so true Jan. Just imagine how that child’s hopes rose when he saw McQueary. Then imagine how quickly the despair and acknowledgement that he could never be saved set in.

      • justjinx

        If McQueary does have children – I bet he is really selective about who he leaves them with. Voice of experience speaking here

      • MyCatLovesTV

        Justjinx, I watched an adult male abuse victim make that same point on the news…how that young man surely felt he was going to be saved when McQueary walked in. Then the horror of discovering that the “men” of Penn State football (not all but some of them, I know) were going to let him continue to be tortured in a way none of us want to imagine. How much therapy would that boy need to EVER trust again?

  • GooglyMoogly

    You do not walk onto an assault of a child and turn and run. You’re a 28 yr old man – you go and punch that 60 yr old in the ribs and grab that kid and run. How would that coach feel if he knew his little girl was being assaulted and someone he knew saw it and did nothing? Contact the police for god’s sake, if nothing else.

    And then to see that same old man on the Penn State campus for the next 8 years. How do you do that? Its appalling.

  • angela

    OK, I have to agree with the premise of protecting the whistleblower in this instance, BUT only because McQueary was essentially a Penn State student at the time. However, I think it was unconscionably cowardly of him to witness a helpless young child being raped and not intervene. Given the magnitude of trouble this has plunged the university in, it would probably be best for all concerned if he voluntarily resigned his position.

    • BadBadJan

      I also agree with the premise of protecting whistle blowers but I just can’t see this jerk as one. He didn’t stand up and sound the alarm, he just passed the buck and left that child, and countless other children, in harms way. Even when talking about whistle blowers we have to be mindful of the crimes. We aren’t talking about stealing athletic supplies or cheating on his pay slip. This was a case of immediate harm being done to a defenseless human and the need to save that human trumps all else in my opinion.

    • MyCatLovesTV

      McQueary was a grad student not a wet behind the ears freshman. And he chose to continue to work with the football organization for years along side the man that he saw raping a kid. I think we can all agree that we each have different tolerance levels and different lines we cannot cross. But can we all agree that child rape is beyond the pale and if we don’t jump in ourselves (and it looks like 99.9% of the BG community would fly in so fast our feet would not hit the ground) we would call the police. If McQ didn’t understand what he was seeing (and he did), then he was too dim to be in college. But he did know and to use s aports term, he dropped the ball. And due to his…I don’t have a word to describe McQ’s actions or lack thereof…willingness to turn a blind eye, more abuse, more rape, more violence against young boys occurred. McQ was NO whistleblower. He cared more about being “one of the boys” of the Penn State football management than being one of the good people of our planet. Ugh!

    • GingerNaps

      Ang and Bsd, you make really great points ~ thank you.

  • Up the Coast

    If my husband or I would have walked in on such a horrendous act, it would have been that freak Sandusky screaming for HELP, cuz he would have been beaten to a friggen pulp! I don’t know WHAT is wrong with these students at Penn State, but if they are our ‘future’….we are all scr*wed :( I understand that Ashton doesn’t “think” or have a brain in that pretty little head of his….but the kids at Penn State are in college….DUH!

  • amagod121

    Well, this is a good topic of discussion and it saddens me that anyone would champion any of these men. I am good friends with someone whose son was sexually abused and it was terrible! The kid went amok for a year. Thankfully, due to a lot of therapy, he regained his happiness and is doing well. But to NOT do something when you see an act of pure evil? No. Whistleblowing involves seeing someone steal money and telling your superiors. When you see a child being r*ped, for goodness sake, you stop it immediately, either physically or by calling 911. Not by leaving the child with the rapist and then telling your coach. OMG, I’m sorry but my blood pressure is rising just thinking of it. Jail for them all!

    • GingerNaps

      AMA, it’s true, it’s very hard to imagine not jumping in. I read one article that says the mind can play tricks and say ‘is this really happening?’ but altogether it seems incomprehensible that he didn’t intervene on the spot.

  • Myvjy

    Here is the thing you need to keep in mind about McQueary He was a GRADUATE student who almost immediately got a full time job on the team – shortly after he reported what he witnessed to his superiors. He received one of the most coveted opportunities for someone going into coaching football as a career. Very quickly year-by-year he was promoted to both better and better positions on the Penn St. team.
    It “could” have been that he was deserving of these accelerated career promotions? Perhaps, though given the circumstances highly suspicious.

    Most graduate students do not end up getting hired by the team; it’s rare in fact, though possible. Even though it may seem like being a receivers coach on Penn State is no big deal. It’s one-step away from offensive coordinator or even a head-coaching gig at a lessor powerhouse school. The school is also quite rich, it makes hundreds of millions a year via it football team – endorsements, TV contracts and other revenue generators. His receiver’s coach position is likely a 100K plus job, perhaps even much more. As some college head coaches can make 5million or more a year.

    All in all, this seems like they used quick career advancement as hush money. Whether it was formally addressed or even contracted, or, whether it was implied. Same end results. How could he walk away from such a golden opportunity? Where else would he have been given this golden path?

    Sandusky’s’ son who is assistant General Manager of the Cleveland Browns professional football team also had an incredibly smooth ascension to the top. Assistant GMs in the pros can make between 300k-1million per. I suspect he may have threatened to tell on the deified Penn St program and had Joepa call in favors and exert clout around the league as well. Sadly, I suspect, like many of Sandusky’s pedo-farms, all his adopted sons where probably also victims. So if anyone deserved blackmailing his dad or Joepa for career assistance it would be him.

    Lastly, let us not forget that as of 1999 Sandusky’s name was well known to every major college powerhouse football team and to most of the pro teams who often promote college coaches in the pros. Sandusky was widely anticipated to take over the Penn St team upon Joepa retirement. Again, they were planning to make him the head coach of one of the most esteemed and lucrative college football franchises ever. Surely the pros were considering him for defensive coaching positions at high salaries and his name was being dropped for other high profile lucrative professional and college head coaching positions. Then…overnight, the chatter dies, nothing, no offers, no considerations, career stagnation, a fade away. Almost impossible to believe.

    Do you really think that it was not widely known among athletic directors at other top schools and general managers in the pros about his off field predilections? Don’t you think those who were courting him heard the same stories that Sandusky was a pedophile and to steer clear? Yet, no one said anything. Everyone steered clear of him, except for Penn State. All of them said nothing to anyone in a position to stop the perpetuation of mores abuses by him. This is a tightly knit community and players and coaches off the field lifestyle is widely known by all the powerful inner sanctum of the game. They’re paid to know these things as millions of dollars and success are on the line. Unfortunately, it is also a culture of winning and anything that detracts or distracts from winning is ignored or buried. Penn St is too rich a program to afford to be tarnished, so let’s hush everyone up, it never happened, it’s still not happening – let’s focus on winning.

    They all knew. Now they just have to deal with the embarrassment. Like the Catholic Church, their victims matter little. Maintaining reputations and the revenue stream is all that is revered. There will be no reflection, no amends, no remorse – just annoyance that the story broke and that people…actually got exposed.

    He needs to go. Too simple for words. This is not about the sacred trust of whistleblowers, this is about what it means to be a human being. He’s failed. He watched a 10 year old being anally raped then continued to work next to the same abuser bringing children to the practice fields and games for years to come

    Sadly, there are countless monsters like him out there. Often pillars of the community and not raincoat-wearing strangers. People need to be vigilant. There is no cure for pedophilia. It is a lifelong compulsion. They say that those who finally get caught have probably abused hundreds of people before slipping up.

    In many ways this story is a twisted blessing in disguise. Whereas people refused to believe Michael Jackson capable of such things, having their judgment clouded by celebrity, affection for him and fond memories of what his music meant to them – Sandusky was not well known beyond the diehard fan and the football community. He give’s American society the ability to discuss (and act!) the integrated monster who lives next-door right and under our noses. Perhaps as a society we will be more observant and cognizant of suspicious scenarios. Most abusers are among those we trust with our children. Educate. Intervene. Say something. We don’t have to wear capes to be real heroes.

    God speed.

  • detroit

    Good post Myvjy.

    I think there are a LOT of suspicious things that occurred, pointing to the fact that several, if not many people knew. And covered up. The fact that Sandusky “retired” in 1999. He was young, and in position to ascend to even higher career heights. And he RETIRES?

    People knew! I think child molestation is possibly the worst crime someone can commit. And they covered it up, for what? A freaking football program?

    I think more heads will roll.

  • angela

    Penn State’s new president just announced that McQueary has been placed on paid leave. Even if the university arranges an attractive severance package in exchange for his resignation, I’d be OK with that. I can’t see him continuing there after being an eye witness who didn’t lift a finger to help that boy and then staying silent all these years.

  • crazycatlady

    It’s the moral responsibility of every adult to stand up for a child who is in harm’s way. McCreary was a grad assistant at the time he witnessed the assault, so he had to be at least 21, probably older. I agree with others who have said they don’t see how he could walk by Sandusky all these years and say or do nothing. Sometimes doing nothing makes you as guilty as those who did the deed.

  • krysimarie28

    I’m honestly shocked and very disappointed by this opinion about protecting the whistleblower.

    I can’t imagine that the person(s) posting this opinion would feel the same way if it had been their child on the receiving end of such disgusting, inhumane, traumatic, and PAINFUL treatment by a disgusting monster. Like someone else wrote earlier, when you witness a crime, you call the authorities. You do what you can to stop the crime. You don’t wait and do nothing (informing bosses who continued to take no action is the equivalent of doing nothing) for nine years while the lives of countless children are ruined by a pervert.

    The image of what happened to this child is haunting. There’s not a normal adult in this world that wouldn’t immediately do everything in their power to stop what was happening. The only things that prevented this man from taking the right action was cowardice and self-interest.

    *disgusted*

  • FamousPeopleDoStupidThings

    “If you don’t like to mix opinions with your gossip, don’t read it.”

    As a side note, BG, I just want to add that I appreciated this disclaimer – it was PERFECT, having settled the discontent expressed in yesterdays 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It also made me realize how in tune you are with those who contribute. Very cool. Thank you.

  • laili6

    Ethics aside, this seems all twisted around. He’s not a whistleblower, and that’s why he’s out of a job. Had he gone to the authorities and became a legal witness, he’d now be employed. So, lesson is, it’s better to come forward, ’cause it’ll come to haunt you in the end.

  • GingerNaps

    Here’s a worthwhile article from Salon on the psychology of whistleblowers called “Why didn’t McQueary call the police?”:
    http://www.salon.com/2011/11/12/why_didnt_mcqueary_call_the_police/singleton/?mobile.html

    • MyCatLovesTV

      I’m more disgusted after reading the article. McQueary was TWENTY-EIGHT when he saw the child being raped. Instead of helping or stopping the rape, this 28-year old person left, went home and called his daddy. This smells like someone who doesn’t want his career path messed up by making waves.

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