SOLVED!
BlindGossip – This singer with a famous name has finally left the Church of $cientology. She is so disenchanted with the organization that she posted a series of YouTube videos under an assumed name detailing her grievances with the cult. The Church’s Office of Special Affairs (OSA), which polices the internet for “Suppressives”, managed to shut down her YouTube channel twice, but it has recently been successively reposted.
SOLVED!
It’s Lisa Marie Presley! Source: BlindGossip
Of course when someone leaves the Church of $cientology, there is no press release. So when Lisa Marie decided she had had enough, she simply left.
In fact, she has been working her way out of the organization for the past three years. It was an arduous process, and she suffered a lot during it, including relapses with substance abuse, and many fights with her mother (Priscilla Presley, who is still a member of CO$).
The reason that the discussion of these events may become public this week is because she is releasing a new album, and the lyrics of more than one song describe that difficult process. We do not know if interviewers will latch on to the significance of the lyrics, but if they do, it will certainly be interesting to see how they handle the subject!
Tony Ortega of The Village Voice does a great job explaining recent events:
Yesterday, the Voice revealed the lyrics to the song “So Long” on Lisa Marie Presley’s new album, Storm and Grace, which seem to confirm what she was saying in her advance single, “You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet” — that Lisa Marie has very much “blown” the Church of Scientology.
Some of our readers, however, noted yesterday that there were still links all over Lisa Marie’s official website to Scientology entities, such as the notorious anti-psychiatry front group, Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR). As of this morning, those links are gone, and if you try to go to a gallery of Lisa Marie at a CCHR event which previously appeared on her site, you get the screen above.
Tomorrow, Presley’s album officially comes out, and she’s going on a major publicity push that will have her at Good Morning America and American Idol this week.
We doubt that the entertainment “reporters” that she’ll run into will ask her about this stuff, but just in case they have the temerity to, here’s what they might bring up with her.
The lyrics to her single, “You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet”…
You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet
Lay down the law, don’t make a sound
Just critical, just going down
I don’t belong, I’ve lost the plot
Not gullible, can’t be what I’m not
You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fail
Well you ain’t seen nothin’ yet
Lay down the truth, don’t make a sound
Just a piece of fruit who’s hit the ground
I don’t respond, I’ve lost the plot
Unethical, not what I thought
You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well
Well you ain’t seen nothin’ yet
Am I a disruption to your corruption?
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fail
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
No longer elated, now you’re frustrated
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fail
Well you ain’t seen nothin’ yet
You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
As we explained last month, no Scientologist in good standing would ever describe themselves as “a bit suppressive.” (See our previous post to understand why.)
We then obtained the lyrics to the rest of Lisa Marie’s album Storm and Grace from her label, and wrote that after looking at the lyrics of the song “So Long,” there’s really little doubt that she’s walking away from the church…
So Long
This here is a city without lights
Those are all the people without eyes
Churches, they don’t have a soul
Soup for sale without a bowl
Religion so corrupt and running lives
Farewell, fair weathered friends
I can’t say I’ll miss you in the end
Chorus:
So long, seems that I was so wrong
Seems I wasn’t that strong
Dead wrong, and now I’m long gone
Wrong side, I’ve been sleeping on the wrong side
Stains all over my soul I can’t hide
Nothing’s more clear than goodbye
These roads they don’t lead to anything
These people they talk, they say nothing
Actors who don’t have a part
Heartfelt people with no heart
I’ll find a new crowd
Make a new start
Farewell, fair weathered friends
I can’t say I’ll miss you in the end
(Chorus)
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, say nothing at all if you’ve nothing nice to say
In yesterday’s post, former Scientologists Jefferson Hawkins and Jason Beghe explained how clear the message in this song is to other people who have left the church.
After our story yesterday, reader Paul Jay Salerno asked, if she’s left the church, why are there still links to Scientology all over her official website?
I answered to Paul that perhaps she hadn’t seen the site in a while — a common thing for celebrities.
Then, this morning, I noticed that Scientology was completely wiped from her website.
Well, that’s very interesting.
UPDATE: It looks like there is at least one mention of CCHR still on her website. Salerno had pointed out that CCHR links were all over the place on the website just yesterday, and they seem to be gone. But in her “Overview” page, there is still one CCHR mention, as Jim Little pointed out to me. She refers to CCHR as one of several groups she works with in her philanthropic efforts. But any mention of CCHR (or other Scientology entities) has disappeared from her “philanthropy” page itself.
A lot of you got this right. Congrats to Montreal was first!
Lisa Marie?
Absolutely ^^. The singer part might be a little generic, but what you’re looking for is the famous name and there aren’t many that are more famous than that one.
It has to be her. Who else in the CoS has a famous name? She’s THE famous name.
And there also have been rumors that she bounced from Scientology for months now.
This is the You Tube video in question, I think…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyu882dWFc
No, this is a video from near the beginning of Chanology early in 2008. The videos in question would have to be more recent.
Wrong answer. It’s our hero Dmitriy Guzner
Lisa Marie Presley was my first thought.
How about Lisa Marie, Juliette Lewis, or maybe Jennifer Lopez? Wasn’t JLO rumored to be a part of this religion?
J. Lo’s Dad is a Scientologist.
Didn’t Pink dabble?
only in the pink taco. allegedly.
lol comment of the day!
It should be Katy Holmes.
Lisa Marie has the most famous last name of them all …
You go girl!
It’s what the King would have wanted. Blow, Lisa Marie, blow…
I would have to go with Lisa Marie on this one as well, though Juliette Lewis is another good guess. I wouldn’t go with JLo simply because she has always given me the impression that she is more of a dabbler.
Has anyone actually seen these videos?
I did a quick search and there are A LOT of anti-scientology videos on you tube. Most of them seem to be out of the UK.
They’re not “out of the UK” per se. We in Chanology have been posting videos on YouTube UK because, for the last year or so, the Scis have been using false DMCA notices to take down videos off of YouTube US and get accounts suspended (it happened to my account for a while). The DMCA doesn’t apply in the UK. We’ve also been caching a supply of videos on RuTube, the Russian equivalent of YouTube. They never take anything down, and the Russian government hates the Scis.
The good news is that one of the main Scis doing the takedowns got his own YouTube account suspended last week, so by YouTube policy, he can’t file DMCA takedowns.
Love what you are doing! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the further info. The ones I saw had British spellings and dates (“centre” and 29-10-2007) so I assumed those were by British posters.
awesome work Anonymous. keep it up!
I applaud your work…I’ve been following it.
Lisa Marie FTW
Nic Cage starred in Face/Off. He was also married to Lisa Marie. Definitely her.
Great connect-the-clues posting!
Good catch.
I hope it’s Lisa Marie!
where are the videos?? i live in the UK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmgQHYChrPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpZ6wwKHKk
I have never been a scientologist, but I would like some of the promised free cake.
Too bad. The cake is a lie.
They lied about free cake? Now THAT’S just wrong
that IS mean. terrible.
No one should EVER lie about free cak. Ever.
LOL!
If she needs help keeping her videos up, just call for /b/lackup.
Nice one, Lisa-Marie. Anonymous is with you.
chaka khan? she’s been linked for YEARS!
j-lo?
I agree with Lisa Marie. It may explain why she up and left LA to live in England. It was abrupt and she explained that she didn’t want to raise her kids in Los Angeles. But she may have wanted to put some distance between herself and the celebrity center.
“the cake is a lie”
I would LOVE to see these videos! Anyone been successful in finding them?. . . ps-Scientology is incredibly evil IMHO as they are a cult. It’s not so much that I’m upset that it’s a cult, but that they force their members to withhold necessary medical treatment from persons with psychological/mental health, & special needs. To withhold treatment from persons with such disorders & afflictions is simply wrong & evil. PERIOD!
Love the WoW reference.
If you’re talking about “the cake is a lie”, that was around way before WoW. Even before Portal. We can thank the chan boards for that (or at least that’s the furthest back I’ve been able to trace it). Thus ends today’s unnecessary Internet meme lesson.
Lisa Maire’s website still has positive comments regarding $cientology, links to $cientology, as well as links to a few of their front groups like CCHR (Citizens Commision for Human Rights) and Youth for Human Rights. So I don’t think it’s her.
Don’t think it’s Juliette Lewis, she doesn’t really sing and is not that famous.
J-lo would be my guess and even that I think is unlikely.
Hmmmm… whoever it is, it will be interesting when they tell their tale!
Lisa Marie’s official website is probably handled by someone at Gold Base, so don’t take that as an indication of what her actual beliefs might be at this time. It has to be her. No one else really fits the clues the way that they’re written.
And if you still have doubts about the cult, Google the names in this thread.
Juliette Lewis pretty much ONLY sings now. She’s got a band- Juliette Lewis and the Licks and she’s performed at a fair amount of big music festivals (somehow!)
Lisa Marie was very vocal in her defense of scientology after Jett Travolta passed away. That was in January of 2009. Could she have shifted her views so dramatically since then?
The rumors of her leaving the Church started about two months after Michael Jackson died (a death that apparently has devastated her), so maybe that has something to do with it.
Oh, yeah. Since that time, Paul Haggis has left the cult, the Saint Petersburg Times did its series on Midget Miscavige’s abuses, and Marc Headley’s expose has come out to great reviews. Celebs aren’t as restricted in their brainwashing as most of the other members, so if any of those incidents caused doubts, the whole edifice might fall very quickly for her (a lot of ex-Scis have said that their disillusion with the cult happened very fast, even after decades in). Lisa Marie doesn’t have to worry about being sent to the RPF thanks to her status, so she can make a quick getaway.
Yeah, I remember when Michael Jackson had died, they had said that Lisa was leaving the church and that is why she was moving to England or somthing.
the youtube video gave me the creeps
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Where is the video???
And I was hoping it would be Tommy Cruise! I’m hoping & praying for that bombshell to drop everyday. I hope this will make Tommy stop & think and quit that sci-fi religion any day. If Lisa Marie is fed up and more famous people keep dropping out, there’s hope Tommy Girl & Stepford wife, Katie will just up & leave one day soon . . .
No, I think that cult is more than welcome to keep Tommy, let’s just hope Katie and Suri get out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyu882dWFc
I’m not sure this is it, but it sure sounds like it!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scientology+%27uk%27&search_type=&aq=f
There are 985 videos against Sci-Fi . . . that’s a lot to look at.
rutube.com is the YouTube version in Russian.
http://tinyurl.com/ykq2dco
The St. Petersburg expose may have made it through Scientology’s carefully crafted wall of delusion. If you haven’t seen the expose, check it our here: http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/
You gais have it wrong. It’s Madonna.
Since when did Madonna leave Kabbalah and join the Church of Scientology?
“church” of scientology convicted for fraud in france they got a million dollars fine
two more trials are due pretty soon
and one should start in belgium
soon
voila
a bientot
nono la patate
ses amis l’appelle l ’1 $ecticide
they do give out free cake. and hor d’oeuvres. you have to sit through an event like a comic book reading or something.
Lisa Marie Presley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnO7NdnFZU&NR=1
It has to be Lisa Marie. Why mention her and Travolta in a big expose about celebrities trying to leave the church, out of all the celebrities involved?
Good luck, Lisa!
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